Tuesday, March 11, 2008

Dicks Attacks West Ham Players

West Ham legend Julian Dicks says the players are to blame for recent results and not Alan Curbishley.

"I think Alan is the right man for the job," said Dicks.

"These are all professional footballers, they are earning fortunes, but a lot of them are just going through the motions. At the end of the day the manager gets the blame which I think that is wrong. It's down to the players, they're the ones out on the pitch.

"Nowadays people give them (managers) eight months or a year and if they don't do anything then they get rid of them which for me is wrong.

"I watched them against Manchester United and they deserved to beat them. I watched them against Liverpool and they deserved to beat them too.

"Obviously the last three matches have been disappointing, but I was at the Chelsea game and I think fans can appreciate players having bad days and off games but they can't appreciate players not trying.

"Apart from (Mark) Noble and the keeper (Rob Green), the players didn't try against Chelsea.
"People pay a lot of money to watch the team play and we all have bad days, but it's when people don't try or there's no passion, that's what really gets fans annoyed.

"Alan Curbishley can put his 11 players out if they don't perform then there's not a lot he can do about it in that game. Nine of the players didn't perform (against Chelsea), they didn't work they didn't show any passion whatsoever."

"I think if you get results, I don't care who you are, the fans will come around, but at the end of the day it's down to the players.

"I played with Slaven, he was a quality player and obviously he's done really well with Croatia but hopefully they'll give Alan quite a bit more time.

"They are tenth in the table, it's not a disastrous season, it's only the last three games that they've performed badly.

"But 12 goals in three games is a lot to concede, but they have Blackburn next and if they can go out, beat them and get two or three results on the spin it'll all be forgotten."

I think the players should be locked in the dressing room with Dicks for half an hour. That should sort them out.

15 Comments:

At 12:07 PM, Anonymous portugal said...

Dicks makes a fair point that the players,including key senior players ,have dramatically underperformed. Nonetheless ,that doesn t absolve curbishley for a number of managerial mistakes. nor does it say much for curbishley s ability to motivate.

why is it that hugher,o neill,redknapp and moyes don t experience these problems? they get beat ,but they don t get utterly outfought 3 times on the spin.

where Dicks is dead wrong is the following. Even if we were to win 3 on the spin,there is no chance in hell that these last 3 defeats will be forgotten. Nor shud they be .

there s only one chance in hell that these last 3 debacles will be forgotten.

and that s if we win 5 or 6 of the remaining 9 fixtures. what odds do care to give us on that ,Julian?

 
At 1:26 PM, Anonymous lew said...

Portugal,

So when Everton battled relegation with David Moyes, flirting dangerously close to the bottom three almost all season, did that make him a bad manager because he found it difficult to rally his troops away from the situation?

No. Just like three defeats in the midst of a very solid season doesn't make Alan Curbishley the wrong man for the job. They stuck with Moyes and gave him time, look at them now, 5th best club in the league by some way in my opinion. You don't become a big club in five minutes. You give a manager time and space and a fair shot.

Villa under O'Neill? Struggled last season. Sacked? Not a mention. Hughes? Has had patchy times, even this season. Notice a pattern?

 
At 1:53 PM, Anonymous canyuck said...

So much common sense; makes for a nice change.

 
At 2:51 PM, Anonymous portugal said...

ever notice another a pattern lew, that ,none of those other managers were blown off the park three times consecutively?

it isn t a case of becoming a big club in 5 minutes. nobody s asked for that . it IS case of being professional .

to lose 3 times in a row isn t the issue. if we d lost 1 or 2 nil in each of those games ,and at least gave a good account of ourselves, that would be different. it s the contemptible MANNER in which we ve been losing that is the issue.

there s being in tenth place and giving 100 percent to improve upon that. and there s being in tenth place and simply stopping to make the effort. bit of a difference.

and lets face it, it isn t the first time . last season teh same manager managed to lose heavily to charlton,reading and sheffield utd, and failed to beeat watford 3 times.

does it make him a bad manager? no.
he s done some things right amidst dificult circumstances ,and up until the recent run of games i was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. he s a reasonable manager. i just think we need better , if we can find it.

 
At 4:19 PM, Anonymous toys no longer in pram said...

Yes, and we need calmness, if you will grant it.

 
At 5:41 PM, Anonymous lew said...

Portugal,

How about Everton losing 6 on the trot without scoring a goal at the beginning of 05/06? Or, in the same season, their back to back 4-0 defeats against Bolton and Villa in amongst a run of 5 defeats in a trot, against far weaker sides than the 3 we have just played? Or Villa's failure to win in 13 consecutive games last season? Or Blackburn's failure to win in 9, including two consecutive 4-0 defeats, in 05-06? Do you want me to continue?..

Do their fans deserve better? I am sure you would argue they do. All of those runs came under the current manager. They stuck with the manager through hard times and they are currently a damn sight better off than those who chop and change their manager every time the going gets tough.

Alan Curbishley has done a fine job at West Ham, and it sickens me that people like you (and sadly there are many like you poisoning our club at the moment) don't treat him with the respect he deserves. I have a lot of time for Alan Curbishley, a man who I have met and who is one of the most professional gentlemen you will ever happen to meet (so don't start all this bull about professionalism - you couldn't be further from the truth). He needs time to get his squad fit and playing the good football that we know a full strength West Ham XI is capable of. Give him that chance, and stop making a twat of yourself and making our fanbase a laughing stock mate.

 
At 6:04 PM, Anonymous put toys back in pram and don't prawns said...

Please do not use foul language on this blog. There are so many others in the WHU community that allow you to do that.

 
At 6:18 PM, Anonymous lew said...

Apologies ed, as I have a lot of time for this blog, but that guy winds me up! I'll refrain in future ;-)

 
At 10:43 PM, Anonymous portugal said...

your dishonest lew . and there is nothing worse than that . there are no excuses for the absolute failure that occurred over these three defeats. a failure of the players and the manager.

and the 3 games prior,against relegation zone sides ,were anything but convincing.

curbishley may be a decent man. but that doesn t make him the right man for the job.

try to control your temper, lew.

 
At 10:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what makes our fan base a laughing stock lew, is people who swear on blogs to people they ve never even met ,and people who can t disagree with resorting to petty insults.

it makes the club and its fan base look very two-bob. any part of that
which you don t undertaqnd?

 
At 11:39 PM, Anonymous Carly said...

I would say there are many things that can make the fanbase a laughing stock such as people playing arm chair manager coupled with screaming at other posters with the caps lock. But the howler has to be when someone disagrees with an opinion and demands to know the identity of another poster.

 
At 4:32 AM, Anonymous tom said...

actually the real howler is people who get upset when they see a point of view that s different from their own. and the most pathetic are those who feel the need to be rude when they don t agree.

if you don t like opinions ,then don t read comments. it s not a difficult choice. and if you can t have a dialogue without it degenerating then go find a blog where you can swear and insult. there are plenty of them.

the armchair manager is a person who actually spends time analysing
the use of lowercase or uppercase. surely you can find better things to moan about.

grow up.

 
At 6:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

blogs are there for people to express their views. if you are not adult enough to be able to do that without being abusive towards someone who s opinion differs from yours ,then kindly move to another blog where abusiveness is encouraged and tolerated. it isn t on this blog.

 
At 7:56 AM, Anonymous Lew said...

Ha, I'm honestly not usually one for petty insults, but this is something I just feel so strongly about! Sorry if I've offended anyone. Portugal, please explain what makes me dishonest? Didn't understand what you meant by that. Then I think it's best that we agree to disagree and unite as West Ham fans ;-)

 
At 3:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa, I am confused.

I think everybody's right! Seriously, these last three games have been terrible, and Curbishley hasn't looked the tatical part. Will we forget this three games? Probably not. Is Curbishley a bad manager because of three bad results against in form sides with a banged up squad and one health forward? Probably not. The fact that we are pretty firm in mid-table with such a beat-up squad probably speaks more about Curbs than the last three games do. Sometimes I don't think he says the right things, and sometimes he doesn't look like an inspiring guy, but the least we could do is let him settle in with the fresh faces he chose over the Summer.

I think I agree that our support is a bit more fickle than it should be. I guess you need that healthy counter arguement to keep the all on the guys in the club on their toes.

Chris // NYC Hammers

 

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